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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell.
Gay Christians: Fact or Myth?
Having read, examined, considered and re-considered the Gospel, I could just not stomach it that God could exclude a whole section of our community from his salvation, so I really chewed on this matter. And I also discovered that there is no prohibition mention in the O.T. or the N.T. for lesbianism. Note: in the O.T. God imposes his laws upon the Jews and, with the N.T., he reveals a revision of the law, which he calls The New Covenant. In the N.T. we read how the Gentiles jump in on Jesus and, while he initially rejects them, he soon accepts them ( Matthew: 15:22-24). So the laws of the bible are actually for the Jews; but the Gentiles, because of the Doctrine of the Gospel, must take the universal Ten Commandments as standard and may fit in any none-violating O.T. commandments imposed upon the Jews, as they please.
What is a Gay Christian, if this exists?
TYPE (the sure 'type'):
has baptized in the name
of Jesus Christ.
WOULD-BE TYPE: (If it is possible for these gays to be Christian):
has read and understood
the Gospel, but rejects Paul's CO1. 6:9. (where Paul's speaks to Gentiles as if to Jews).
The first type surely makes a Christian and, if homo-oriented persons can become Christian, then it is securely done this way.
The only verse in the New Testament ( new Agreement between God and Men ) telling us that homosexuals whom are in sexual relations with each other are not approved of by God and shall not enter heaven. Note: homosexuals who do not engage in homo sex are excluded from this.
Apostle Paul to the Corinthians
translated literally from its original Greek. Paul writes to Jews in
Colossae. So the quote applies to Jews)
Translated from Greek:
man that is penetrated by another man.
The Calling of Paul: read it and find where Jesus tells us that we must believe him.
What applies to one Christian applies to all Christians: therefore Christians believe this also applies to Lesbians.
As we read in the quote above, and many more times in the Gospel, quoted by various Apostles and Christ, fornicators are also unacceptable to God. But the hypocrites declaring themselves 'Christians', being fornicators themselves and transgressors against the Gospel, are all too keen to attack gays, instead of attacking the fornicators amongst those who declare themselves Christians.
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such
as is not so
much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his
(Cliff: here we discover that Paul speaks to Jews, not to Gentiles).
Paul tells us once or twice that: this is from me, and this is from the spirit; but he does not tell us that what he has said about gays is from the spirit. And, as it seems to contradicts logic and the doctrine of Christ ( the calling of all people to repent and baptize in his name, not excluding gays, to love our neighbour etc. ) there seems to be a case to proof, and this can only be done by gays them selves, through becoming Christians, not of the lukewarm kind (so-called) but true Christians; truly repented, married to his gay partner and baptized: and then it can be proven to the world, and irrefutably so, by the subsequent works of their hands.
remember, the homosexual prohibition is put upon the Jews, it has no
part in the universal ten out of the 613 commandments which God imposed
upon the Jews, nor was it put upon the
Christians by Jesus. So one may argue that, if this law
to Christians then the whole Thora (all the Jewish laws) apply
But why, after 2000 years, have we not seen a single proven holy person arise from among the actively gays/lesbians? Is it because the fake Christians have haunted them off the Gospel through all the ages? Or is this as good as proof that homo-sexually active gay man can't be Christians, confirming that what Paul has quoted is the truth and from the spirit? For what he has said was not refuted, like his quote on female preachers, subsequently refuted by his own quote: "for we are all one in Christ Jesus". But then Paul did tell the Jews that they may eat meats which were prohibited in the Thora (the Jewish law books). Or was it refuted after all, by JAM 2:10? Gentiles only have to repent and baptize and follow the doctrine of Jesus and the universal ten commandments, what even the Apostles understood, refraining from imposing circumcision upon the Gentiles.
Mainstream behaviour towards gays:
The true problem for Gays are the Pseudo-Christians whom condemn and harass homosexuals, because in the O.T., God so has prohibited the Jews practice homosexuality. God can condemn, but we cannot do so! This is the generation of Christ, which only ends with the end of the world. And Christ gave no instructions that we should harass gays, condemn them, persecute them, hate them etc. So, do not participate in any of these actions, alone or with any organization: God shall judge all that he regards evil.
Gay persons who believe that the above verses are misinterpreted by Christians and, subsequently, live a Christian life should not be harassed or troubled for their choice. Note that I use the term 'Christian Life' from their perspective. If the common transgressors can refer to their person as 'Christian' then gays can also. If they want to live Christian lives, let them so do. If they want to get married, let them so do. Why? For this does not ensure any ill upon mankind, and moreover, Jesus has never told you to force his Gospel upon others, but he taught you to love your neighbors like you love your self, and that he shall judge and not you.
Apostle Paul to 'The Church of Christ''.
In CO1: 10:26-33 Paul gives instructions not to follow the Jewish laws relating to consumption. But if we must follow one Jewish law then we must follow them all; for Jesus says that transgression against one law is transgression against all laws.
Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the Gospel.
What science says about homosexuality: and remember that only science can ever give us the proof if/
or that people are born gay.